Dagenham Dave

The Stranglers

About Dagenham Dave

"Dagenham Dave" is a song by Morrissey, released as a single in August 1995, a week prior to the release of Southpaw Grammar. It was Morrissey's first release on RCA, the label he had signed to after leaving EMI. This was the second Morrissey solo single not to feature the singer on the cover, instead English football coach and former player Terry Venables is pictured sticking out his tongue. Venables was born in Dagenham. The promotional video for the single featured former Grange Hill actor Mark Savage as the titular Dave. The single reached number 26 on the UK Singles Chart. It is not related to the song of the same name by The Stranglers, from their 1977 album No More Heroes. "Dagenham Dave" is also naval slang for someone who is somewhat unstable or crazy, Dagenham being close to Barking ("barking mad"). 


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Dave was from out of town 
Manchester's likely too 
Had read De Sade to Marx 
More read than me and you 
Scaffolding pays good bread 
It pays for drugs and kicks 
Dave only had one love 
Had no real need for chicks 
Dave was so far ahead 
But now he's dead 

I'm not going to cry 
I bet he hit that water high 

I guess he lost control 
And welcomed in the night 
It was too much for him 
What were his thoughts that night? 
The river Thames is cold 
It keeps on flowing on 
But it left Dave alone 
It just kept flowing on 

There's city sickness here 
But now he's dead 

Late night a street in the west of the city 
There was a place there where he lost himself 
Strange feelings did he feel there 
Strange people did he meet there 
Angry sounds did he hear there 
Like the howling of bulls 

I'm not going to cry 
I bet he hit that water high

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Written by: BRIAN JOHN DUFFY, DAVID GREENFIELD, HUGH ALAN CORNWELL, JEAN JACQUES BURNEL

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11 facts about this song

Songwriter
"Dagenham Dave" is largely associated with Morrissey, who made the song popular. The song is also associated with The Stranglers, an English rock band, who named a different track after the same character.
Release date
The song by Morrissey was released on 21st August 1995 as the lead single from his fifth studio album 'Southpaw Grammar'. On the other hand, the version by The Stranglers was released in 1977, on their album 'No More Heroes'.
Chart Performance
Morrissey's "Dagenham Dave" debuted at number 26 on the UK Singles Chart, and number 21 on the Irish Singles Chart. It had a comparatively lower chart journey as compared to his previous releases.
Lyrics
The exact identity of "Dagenham Dave" in Morrissey's song remains quite an enigma, with the lyrics providing a vague and somewhat melancholy character sketch. The Stranglers' song, on the other hand, was a tribute to their early tour manager whose nickname was "Dagenham Dave".
Music Video
The music video of "Dagenham Dave" by Morrissey was directed by James O'Brien which depicts a strange world with circus-like characters, aligning with the peculiar nature of the song.
Music Style
Both versions of "Dagenham Dave" showcase the respective unique music styles of the artists - Morrissey's indie pop and The Stranglers' pub rock/new wave sound.
Critical Reception
The song received mixed reviews from critics. Some praised its fusion of orchestral pop and rock, whereas others felt it didn't live up to the standard of Morrissey's previous releases.
Liner Notes
A humorous touch in the liner notes of Morrissey's "Southpaw Grammar" album, it references "Dagenham Dave" as the 'hit single' despite it not making a significant impact on the charts.
Live Performance
While Morrissey regularly performed "Dagenham Dave" during his live shows in 1995 and 1997, The Stranglers also included their own version in their live repertoire.
Cultural Influence
This song has influenced other musicians to adopt the character "Dagenham Dave". For instance, it was used as an alias by David Peacock of Chas & Dave in the 70s. It reflects the cultural recognition of this character in British rock music.
B-sides
The B-sides of Morrissey's "Dagenham Dave" include "Nobody Loves Us" and "You Must Please Remember" that were also well-received by fans.

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